Heavyweight Coach "Phanton" PRICE REDUCTION



  • Listing ID: 21221142
  • Type: Coach Cars
  • Year: 1920
  • Manufacture: Pullman
  • Bearing Type: Friction
  • Coupler Type: E
  • Operational: Yes
  • Self Contained: No
  • Length (feet): 85.00
  • Width (feet): 10.00
  • Height (feet): 14.00
  • Weight (tons): 80
  • Shipping (minimum):5,000+
  • This car will have to be trucked or loaded on a flat car
  • Location: Washington
  • Price:
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Heavyweight Coach "Phanton" PRICE REDUCTION

-- Located in Washington. Asking price: . --

Built by the Pullman Company as a 12 section, 1 Drawing Room sleeper. Built  Sept-Oct of 1920, Floor Plan 2410F, Build Lot 4590. Originally named "Phanton", the sleeper was owned and operated by Pullman Updated in 1929 for the original "Empire Builder". Converted in 1940's as a Troop Bunk Car and sold to the Chicago, Burlington & Quincy Railroad in 1949 due to Pullman's anti-trust breakup. Repainted the 1947 Streamliner "Empire Builder" colors and was used into the 1960's as a spare car until it was painted boxcar red and was converted into a Maintenance of Way (MoW) car #251150. Retired in 1960's by the BN (who CB&Q had merged into) at Pueblo, Colorado and sold into private ownership and moved to Washington State. BN has records of CQB Work Equipment Series 250000-251999 in 1976 and 1981, but no specific numbers. Sold to the Lyon's Club in the 1980's where they gutted it, installed theater chairs from an old Fox Theater located outside of Spokane, WA and then used it for excursion rides. Sold to a Rotary Club for same purposes. Purchased February 2021 by current owner Noteworthy: This rail car was used in the opening sequence of the 1983 movie, "Benny and Joon", where Johnny Depp arrives into town via train.

. Some of the mechanical details include: Good body and roof, seats 62, wired for 110v, friction bearings, RV toilet, good wheels, ISSH bolted pedestal trucks

Q-How much does it cost to ship a passenger car by truck?
The costs involved with shipping a passenger car will vary a bit depending on the type of car and the equipment the service provider has and of course the distance it must travel. Normally a passenger car will weigh between 60-85 ton, will be approx. 85' long, ten feet wide and approx. 13-15' high sitting on it's trucks (wheel assemblies). The safest method of shipping will be to lift the car off it's trucks and set one end of the car on the back of a semi truck and the other end of the car on a set of road dollies. So basically the car would be pulled down the highway like a trailer. The trucking company will need to make a second trip to pick up the trucks and deliver them to the site before the truck arrives with the car body. It is recommended that the car be set on a short piece of track since that is how the car structure was designed. You normally can find used railroad ties at landscaping companies and for rail we suggest contacting a local railroad museum, shortline railroad or scrap yard. On an average you can expect to spend a minimum of $10,000-$15,000+. The total price will depend on the trucking company and crane companies in the area. Shipping is the responsibility of the buyer and we are more than happy to discuss the project with any service provider so that fully understand the process. 

How much does it cost to ship a passenger car by rail? 
If a passenger car is capable of being shipped by rail, that does not mean that is the easiest or cheaper method of transport. If the final destination is off live rail then shipping by truck (see above paragraph) will be the best option. This way you know when it will show up and an in what condition it will be in. To ship a car by rail it will need to meet all mechanical and safety standards of the Federal Railroad Administration and the interchanging railroad. In most cases we can recommend a trusted independent inspector who can do an evaluation of the car for you and perform what work needs to be done. On average the car will need to have the air brakes recertified (approx. $5,000-$8,000). And it will need to have UMLER Tags and reporting marks installed on the side of the car (approx. $250.00 - $500.00). If the car is ready to be shipped in freight service (like a box car in a train) you will need to open an account with all railroads involved in the move and get a tariff for moving a passenger on it's own wheels (we can recommend several trusted contractors who can make all the shipping arrangements for you). The railroads charge between $5.00- $15.00 per mile, often the railroads don't go directly from point A to point B so you will need to pay the total amount of mileage the car will travel to get to the final destination. It is recommend that you have the car insured before shipment ( we can recommend several carriers who specialize insuring railroad equipment). 

How much does it cost to ship a car by railroad flat car? 
Occasionally a passenger car can't be shipped by rail due to it's physical attributes or shipping by truck is not the best option. You can ship a car loaded on a flat car, it will need to be secured to the flat car per American Association of Railroads tie down specifications. The tariff often can be cheaper than moving a car on it's own wheels, but you will still need to pay crane costs at origin and destination and you will need to have an active siding for the car to be delivered to. Shipping by flatcar will start at approximately $10,000 and will be based on origin and destination crane cost and the rail tariff and any car rental costs. 

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